‘running out of things to say’ with a girl!

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The 10 hook lead system.

This system is by far the most popular request I get from my students. I want to share with you what the 10 hook lead system is (if you are yet unaware of it) why it works and how to get more information on it in the near future.
Let me start by revealing to you the 3 most common sticking points that my students come to me with. They are as follows:

Approach anxiety

Creating sexual escalation and/or getting out of the comfort or friend zone.

Running out of things to say!
Not Alone but Lonely

Running out of things to say, can actually translate to many other sticking points in regards to general conversation skills.
It can mean:

1: Not possessing the ability to avoid or stop awkward or uncomfortable silences.

2: Having dull and boring interactions with women he likes, even though he genuinely is NOT a dull and boring person with other people. (This of course can leave my students very frustrated!)

3: Subjecting the women to interrogation style questioning.

4: Failing to transition from the opening line in to a full blown conversation (failing to move the introduction stage on to the comfort stage)

Why does this happen?
There are a few reasons, but usually the most common one is because the man is outcome dependant, and consequently he is nervous. Nerves can make us all go BLANK, and when we go blank, we make stupid mistakes, which we kick ourselves over afterwards.
Another common reason is that a lot of my students are used to only talking to people in their social groups, and rely on meeting women via those social groups. This means they wait to meet women who might be sitting at their friends table in a pub /bar or club and therefore getting their attention through conversation can be done nice and slowly with zero time constraint, and of course all formal introductions will be made nice and smoothly too.
But in reality, men want to have the power to pick the woman whom they want rather than just rely on waiting for the RIGHT woman to join their social groups table or to be introduced to the RIGHT woman through a friend at a party.
Unfortunately, because they have gotten so used to the former method of meeting and talking to women, they now find themselves making one or more of the four mistakes I mentioned before when they approach a stranger.

The 10 hook lead system is a clear, practical and actually quite a fun way to have great conversations with women. It gives men the ability to transition the opener to a full-blown conversation effortlessly.
It serves to display the mans personality to the best of his ability, rather than change his personality or become someone he is not.
It can force even the most unresponsive of women to respond and it nails all those unwanted uncomfortable or awkward silences once and for all.

I developed this system three years ago, and each one of my students who have mastered the system now have zero problems in talking to ANY woman, whether its be in the street in the day time or in a crowded bar at night.

Why is it called the 10 hook lead system?

Simple. There are always 10 ways you can go with almost anything (hook) that she says. Having 10 options to go with makes it near impossible to ever run out of material.
The first step however is generating what I call a HIGH CALIBRE hook (useful hook) from her rather than a LOW CALIBRE hook. This makes the process a lot easier.
A high calibre hook can be many things; just a few would be MOVIES, JOBS, and HOBBIES. Where as a low calibre hook (useless hook) would be “YES” “NO” or NAMES. (that’s just a few from a long list)

i.e. if you ask a woman her name and she says “Sarah” then your options are limited in terms of where to go next. Where as using an opinion opener for instance that will generate a high calibre hook such as a MOVIE title, will result in giving you a whole 10 options to go with.
A lot of the time men get in to a frustrating cycle whereby they approach a woman in a bar, and ask her a set of questions that each lead NOWHWERE
“Hey”
“Hello”
“My names Gary, what’s your name?”
“Christine”
“Hi Christine, er so are you having a good night here?”
“Yep”
“Who are you here with?”
“Some friends”
“Cool, erm…do you come here often?”
“Yes”
“Cool, yeah its nice here…so..can I buy you a drink?”

Sound familiar? This is a classic case of a man generating useless hooks. She responds, he struggles to take the conversation further, in come the uncomfortable silences, woman gets bored of interrogation, man offers her drink in a desperate attempt to hold on to her attention, game over.
By the time he gets her to generate a high calibre hook such as asking what she does for a living, it is unfortunately too late! By then her first impression has set in, and her mind is fully concentrated on goin back to her girlfriends, or finding a polite way of ending the interaction.

Apart from the fact that he is only generating low calibre hooks, he is also constantly ending each answer with another and another non-related question.
Meanwhile the woman is getting bored, and quickly realising that she is not actually having a two-sided conversation.
She has no wish to ask him anything about himself, and definitely does not feel he is saying anything that will draw her away from having a great time with her friends.

How many times have I personally, been in this scenario with a man? Answer: Too many times!

In my next blog post, I will give you an example of just o ONE of the 10 hook leads that you can respond with. I will show you how just using one of the hook leads can open up the conversation and get her asking questions about you in return!
But first, you must understand, that it is up to you to generate the high calibre hooks from her in those very early stages in order to use the 10 hook lead system to its full power.
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Posted on May 27th, 2010 by kezia-noble

13 Responses to “‘running out of things to say’ with a girl!”

  1. David Says:

    Brilliant idea! I cant wait :-)

  2. Ron Janpanah Says:

    “Man is outcome dependent, and consequently he is nervous”, this is a great point you made Kezia and I strongly agree with that. Without outcome dependency, a man can relax in the moment, get out of his head and focus on the girl, have more fun and become genuinely more curious about her right from the start. From this stance, he can more confidently use your smart “10 hook lead system” with more ease, effectiveness and success…and then move towards Deep Connection…

    Great Blog Post Kezia, can’t wait for the continuation of it. Thanks…

  3. Benjamin Bidzinski Says:

    I think I am going to jump on the bandwagon as I think I could also become a good coach. From what I can see it is all about desperate men gaining more confidence and losing their inhibitions, I like the work you do and am glad I was pointed in your direction, I will read more.

  4. Fat-Albert Says:

    Hey guys,
    Sure, the outcome dependent man has ssoooo much ‘noise’ running through his mind that actually stifles his pickup. In contrast though, there is nothing wrong with setting small goals throughout the interaction eg getting through the first minute with meaningful things to say (such as opinion opener, a cold read, situational opener), reaching a hook point in the conversation when she actually starts to pay attention to you, eliciting values (her passions and emotions and connecting with her on these points), building comfort and kino escalation (number or kiss close).

    A funny thing though is – why do women sit through a date with such a boring ‘date’ (refer the picture at top), or wait for a while for their date to arrive, chat/text on the phone, ‘don’t care attitude’ and actually want to sleep with this guy while some amature PUA’s who are genuine/confident/cheeky/composed get blown out by the same girl. I’ve seen time and time again girls like this end up going home alone usually in tears but during the week act moody to any more interesting approaches and conversations : ) I’m confused but persist (in a non-needy/unavailable/busy/stylish manner). Yes, I have the Deep Connection DVD set – fantastic!

    All the best guys
    Cheeers
    Fat-Albert

  5. White Tiger Says:

    Is the 10 hook lead system in the new book?

  6. ferhat kalay Says:

    Hi Kezia! i am interested in the field of PUAs. i am also thinking of taking classes with you. i am new to this so what is your first advice for me before i begin this journey.:))

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