Turning numbers in to dates by Johnny
Number’s into Day Two’s
OK so a few of you have been asking ; “Once I get the girls number how do I get to see her again ?”
well, from my own personal experience, the longer you leave to call / text a girl you push yourself out of the comfort zone and she’s forgotten about you so here’s what I think is best to do.
If you’re getting the number in the day (try to always *’nickname number close’ her ,( I will tell you why later), you drop a text that evening. Now the best time to call is between 10:30 – 11:30 pm let me explain why.

Girls normally finish their day job about six, they get home/have dinner about 7-8, then from 8-9 they will be watching their soaps/doing coursework etc. 9-10 they might phone some friends to gossip, and from 10-11 they they’re just surfing the net maybe reading a magazine in bed killing some time. So the best time to call is that 10:30 – 11 bracket.
The model should look like this:
Phone call one
Hey listen I cant talk long (false time constraint) But it was totally random talking to you earlier, Omg I cant believe we don’t know each other at all ! OK I’m going to tell you three RANDOM things then your going to tell me three RANDOM things. (frame control)
I LOVE MOCHA’S, TRAVELLED AROUND EUROPE LAST YEAR, I MEET A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY JOB,
(so what you’ve done here you’ve taken a hold of this frame with quite high calibre hooks for her to want to know more about and relate too and seed more conversation off, now rather than her starting off and she may say : uhm..” my name is Katie, I have a dog and my fav colour is pink” you’re not getting much out of her but as you’ve set the frame you’ve already got her interested because she is now thinking about your hooks and what she is going to say (investing).)
Now she will give you some good hooks to talk about and it will nearly be impossible to run out of conversation material.
IMPORTANT NOTE ! – AT THE HEIGHT OF THE CONVERSATION : throw in that false time constraint again ( hey listen, I’ve got to go, ill call you tomorrow if I’m free)
What you’ve done here is you’ve ended the call on a high wrapped in positive energy, do not let the conversation reach a lul and then get off the phone this is really bad and shows that you’ve run out of conversation.
NOTE – do not initiate a day 2 this is what the third call is about.. you are leaving her wondering “Why hasn’t this dude asked me out yet?” remember your not that ‘handful’ of guys she’s used to dealing with…. you’re the pro.

Phone call two
Now this one can be similar to the last one e.g. Time constraint, something amazing that happened at work today etc
Try saying this to her too: “You never told me what you wanted to be when you was 7″. This will transition to the height of the phone call. You then throw in that time constraint once again and you come across as that exciting mysterious man who doesn’t give too much away. Tell her you’ll call her later on in the week some time. Learn art of how to pick up women, where to pick up women, learn to pick up women, places to pick up women, best way to pick up women, pick up women online, pick up women on the street.
Phone call three
Same model as the last two except with this you will add something more.
I will normally contact her at this point around lunchtime, I will text the girl something like this:
” do you like Leonardo Dicaprio. (You can pick anyone) She will say I love him bla bla bla . Say what do you like about him? Or find out who she prefers if she does not like him. She tells you why etc. Say you’ll call her later
Call her that night an talk about Leonardo Dicapio’s films,(nice follow up) She will go on about how great x film is and how it’s her favourite etc. Now cut that thread move on to something else. Then cut that current thread with a time constraint (yes again!) saying you got to go, but you we should both totally go see Leonardo’s new film together make a joke of it like you should turn up with t-shirts with his face on as your his number 1 fans etc. Don’t ask her when she’s free tell her your free on a Wednesday and it’s going to have to be a late show as your busy in the early eve. (frame control).
Now she is sure to accept even if she had plans she’ll cancel them. Because you’re the mysterious man that’s been on her mind all week that she has to find out more about.
* Nickname number closing
This is a technique where you replace your actual names with nicknames. For best results for this I tend to use characters out of childhood TV shows ‘Zippy’ and ‘Bungle’ from Rainbow or ‘Grouch’ and ‘Big Bird’ from Sesame street or to more recent ones such as the teletubbies or Pokémon names, These nicknames for each other go into each others phones. Now when you text her or phone her she automatically associates you with that fun time you had when you met each other. In NLP this is known as an anchor.
Hope you enjoyed the post. Any comments or questions you want me to answer go ahead let me know.
Big love
Johnny x
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October 26th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
I don’t see those models working… at all. For example… why would you call a girl if you can only talk to her for a second?
You should know when to call her based on the feel/vibe from when you met her. I know from personal experience that i have a different kind of relationship with everyone in my life… so why would that be any different with a girl i just met? It depends on the types of people you and her are, and what kind of interaction you had. in other words, there really are no rules for calling a girl. If you hit it off with her, call her when you feel like calling her… I’ve called girls 10 mins after I met them.
Bottom line is… girls talk shit about everything and they also find anything cute if they want that thing to be cute… there are no conventional rules or ideals… so if you phone a girl 10 mins after you met her whether or not she will be creeped out by it depends completely on if she likes you or not… So don’t play games like wait between 10:30 -11:30, she’s not a bomb you’re trying to disarm, she just a girl… like wow, just call her.
December 4th, 2010 at 9:03 am
good